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Step-by-step guide to enrolling in the NYSARC Pooled SNT for Medicaid spend-down

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Posted: 29 May, 2009
by David Silva (Selfhelp Community Services, Inc.)
Updated: 30 Nov, 2011
by David Silva (Selfhelp Community Services, Inc.)

This article is intended as a condensed road-map for using the NYSARC Pooled SNT to eliminate the Medicaid spend-down.  This article contemplates that the individual is applying for Medicaid in order to obtain home care services.  The sequence of events will be different if that is not the case.

I am leaving out some of the details here, so if you are planning on trying this, I advise you to also review our longer memo on this topic.  You don't need to have a lawyer to enroll in the NYSARC SNT, but you should have a social worker or someone else familiar with Medicaid to help you.

Step One - Apply for Medicaid Home Care with a Spend-Down

The first step is to apply for Medicaid home care with a spend-down.  In New York, certain categories of Medicaid applicants can get Medicaid health coverage even though their income is over the income limit.  Those who receive Medicaid home care services can "meet" their spend-down by getting billed for their home care.  They will get billed for the amount by which their income exceeds the applicable income limit (e.g., a single person with $1200/mo. countable income would get billed $433/mo [$1200 - $767 = $433]).  It is those clients who are unable to afford to pay this bill who are most appropriate for a Pooled SNT.  Read this memo for more information on eligibility for Medicaid home care.

Step Two - Enroll in the Supplemental Needs Trust

The second step, which can actually start at the same time as the Medicaid application, is to enroll in the NYSARC Community Trust II.  All of NYSARC's documents for this trust, including a Q & A and Procedures, are now posted online.  There are many other Pooled SNTs in New York, but this one has the most favorable fee structure for monthly contributions of excess income.  Here's what you have to send to NYSARC to enroll in the trust:

  • NYSARC Beneficiary Profile & Joinder Agreement, filled out and signed before a notary public
  • NYSARC Submission Checklist 
  • Copy of beneficiary's Social Security card (click here if beneficiary lost their Social Security card)
  • Copy of beneficiary's Social Security Award Letter, showing the type of benefit received (e.g., Retirement, Disability, Survivor's) and the claim number (Social Security number).  If you request an Award Letter from the SSA website, you can specify which information you want it to include (e.g., Medicare eligibility dates, date of birth).  It is recommended to include all available information on the Award Letter. (click here to request a new Award Letter)
  • Guaranteed funds (cashier's check, certified check, or money order) payable to NYSARC for the initial deposit (minimum initial deposit is $300)

Before NYSARC will pay out any disbursements, you must have paid a $200 nonrefundable fee, plus two times whatever the monthly contribution will be (in the above example this would be $200 + (2 x $433) = $1066).  One month of this is a security deposit which must remain on account at all times.  The second month of this deposit can be used to pay expenses.  If you sent just $300 initially to open the account, $200 of it will be applied to the fee, and $100 will be applied towards the security deposit.  For information about filling out the joinder agreement and how the fees work, see our longer memo.

Eventually, Medicaid will reduce your spend-down to zero retroactively to the month you began contributing to NYSARC.  For this to work, you must continue sending you spend-down to NYSARC every month.  However, once you are approved for Medicaid homecare with a spend-down, you will be expected to pay your spend-down to the homecare vendor every month, which you will be unable to do because you're sending it to NYSARC.  You can explain to the homecare vendor that your spend-down will eventually be retroactively reduced to zero, and therefore the vendor will be able to back-bill Medicaid for the spend-down.

NYSARC will take about 45 days to process your application, and if you are approved, they will send you a binder with information about how to use the trust.  This binder also includes documents you will have to send to Medicaid to get your spend-down rebudgeted.

Step Three - Notify Medicaid About the Supplemental Needs Trust

The last step is to notify Medicaid that you have a NYSARC SNT account.  For all documents below, send copies and keep the originals for your files.  There are two things you have to show to the DSS: that you are enrolled in an SNT (and making contributions), and that you are disabled:

  • Proof of SNT
    • NYSARC Master Trust Agreement 
    • NYSARC Joinder Agreement, signed by both you and the trustee at NYSARC (this was in the binder from NYSARC)
    • Verification of Deposits made to NYSARC (call NYSARC at 800-735-8924 to request this)
    • NYSARC Acceptance Letter (this was in the binder from NYSARC)

Once you have submitted the SNT and disability documentation to your DSS, they will typically take many months to process this information.  You should eventually get a notice stating that your Medicaid case has been rebudgeted with no spend-down.  Make sure that the effective date of this notice is correct - it should be the month that you first began contributing your excess income to NYSARC.  If it is not correct, you may have to request a Fair Hearing to appeal the notice (click here to request a hearing).

As you can see, this is one of the most complicated things you can do involving Medicaid.  Many people find that it is worth hiring a private elder attorney to help with this process.  Some free legal services may be available to help, also.  For more in-depth information on SNTs, including how an SNT affects eligibility for other public benefits, see our Training Outline for Advocates.


This article was authored by the Evelyn Frank Legal Resources Program of Selfhelp Community Services, Inc.

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Attached files
file SNT_Outline_Aug_2011.pdf (424 kb)
file Medicaid Basic - 2011.pdf (337 kb)
file Cover Letter to Medicaid with SNT.dot (54 kb)
file MAP-751D HRA HIPAA Release.pdf (289 kb)
file MAP-252F AIDS Medical Report.pdf (293 kb)
file MAP-751E Authorization to Release Medical Information.pdf (202 kb)
file DSS-1151 - Disability Interview.pdf (251 kb)
file DSS-486T - Medical Report for Determination of Disability.pdf (697 kb)
file Using SNT for Medicaid Spend-down.pdf (228 kb)

Also read
document Overview - Supplemental Needs Trusts
document List of Pooled SNTs in New York State
document Advocate's Outline on Supplemental Needs Trusts
document How to use a pooled SNT to eliminate the Medicaid spend-down.
document Medicare Savings Programs (MSP) in New York
document Legal Authorities Relating to Supplemental Needs Trusts
document Medicaid Disability Determinations

External links
http://www.nysarc.org/trust-services/trust_docs/
http://www.health.state.ny.us/health_care/medicaid/program/update/savingsprogram/medicaresavingsprogram.htm
http://ssa.gov/beve

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